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BESTER bm
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Posted - 2017.06.09 19:44:07 -
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Cargo space will certainly be an issue as in many case we will have to carry multiple mods and subs here.
Also a major worry and concern still is the sugestion for base resists to be reduced to T3D levels.. I see no logic in this and it will impact explorers greatly as they will _need_ these resists and as it stands will not be able to buff them without losing the cloak.
What can be the reasoning for a cruiser to have the same resists as it's 'counterpart' Destroyer.. It would seem logical it is an improvement over it's smaller brother. |

BESTER bm
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
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Posted - 2017.06.15 03:07:23 -
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Dior Ambraelle wrote:Also, @ CCP Fozzie I know you have a lot of work to do, but could you also communicate toward us, sometimes please? As I was reading this thread, I saw multiple people (including me) having concerns about the exploration kit is tied to the cloak-based defense. Could you please explain why exactly do you think this is good/necessary?
Fozzie is not an explorer so he would probably not know/understand what we all do in the same way. While it certainly sounds like there is members of the focus group who understand and are willing to cater to our needs I am still concerned.
Keypoints I have seen here and which I would agree with:
- Move scanning and analyzer bonus to the hull
- Preferrable have a separate hold for subsystem mods and rigs (maybe have 6-8 internal slots to place inactive mods/rigs in)
- Allow for refit from internal slots without need for mobile depot (add inactive/static timer for balance)
- Where possible increase hold by 15-20%
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BESTER bm
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
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Posted - 2017.06.20 02:03:19 -
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In short, this will kill the Tengu for use in Superior Sleeper caches. It will not be able to tank those anymore. It will not allow you to tank the damage in either solar or Sentries room from what I see and two back2back Massive Shockwaves in Archive room will kill lthe ship as it evaporates the shield with no time to regen. RIP explo Tengu
The reason why covert was in offensive is because in most case when used it will be used instead of weapons. Now, being in defensive it basically kills the ability to create a viable and well tanked explorer. When I come into a system cloacked and nullified, I am still seen (briefly) when coming in.. It's justa matter of combat probing to find me while refitting..
Basically negates the purpose of both Cloak and Nullification.. But then, that seems to be the whole idea.. Give the PVP crowd their pewpew. |

BESTER bm
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Posted - 2017.06.20 21:07:06 -
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baltec1 wrote:If no other cruiser can run these sites then why should t3c?
Because these are not any other Cruisers, they are T3/higher end/more flexible/more powerful cruisers. T3C come with a hefty skill requiremant, will generally cost a good bit more and carry a significant penalty for losing it beyond just losing the ship. Seems to me that would call for some balance..
Instead it seems CCP and the pewew crowd in the game seem to prefer it to be 'just another cruiser' as they are unable to deal with it otherwise.
baltec1 wrote:Why should the T3C which is supposed to be a generalist be as good or better than a specialised ship?
First off, it appears you have never run these sites so you would not know what you are talking about. Second, there really is no alternative to the T3C to run these sites. There is nothing beyond an explo fit T3C that wil lgive me the bonusses on scanning/hacking and even the T3C is relatively slow for this purpose. Frankly, the rewards from these sites barely justify the investment of SP and ship/fit required
Fozzie said they wanted to preserve the exploration role, it is quite clear from the latest information he either lied or has no clue about what is required to run these sites. |

BESTER bm
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Posted - 2017.06.21 17:42:31 -
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baltec1 wrote:Sterling Blades wrote: but if it does become that a FRIGATE is the better option for endgame explo sites rather than a larger supposedly beefier vessel, then there is a problem. Again, a dedicated exploration ship should be better then a generalist cruiser at its specialised task. That frigate is better at explo sites than a titan.
You are twsting the argument to suit your needs here. You are trying to blanket the argument with basic and frankly non applicable comments. There currently is no high end exploration ship capabale of running the high end exploration sites with acceptable risk. The only ship able to do this is a T3C right now and post nerf that option seems to be gone. Many people have spends serious time and effort getting skilled in to these ships and the required fits which also carry a 1B pricetag. CCP is about to wipe out all that work and investment and apparently will not care one bit about this. |

BESTER bm
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
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Posted - 2017.06.21 22:15:16 -
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baltec1 wrote: Your easy ride is over, this content is going back to being difficult and hopefully that also means the supply of the high end gear out of these sites become more rare. You are going to have to adapt, just like everyone else that has had their golden goose nerfed.
Dude, you do not even know what you are talking about and quite clearly have never seen nor run any of these sites. At this point you are merely a cracked record spouting the same nonsense as you really have no argument here. CCP is about to kill off high en exploration as the only ship they have that will be able to run these sites will be nerfed to he point where it can't.
Whether you like it or not, whether you agree or not, whether it was intended or not, the T3C and especially the Tengu has become the Specialist Explo Cruiser. In part due to the salt and tears from gankers and campers unable to counter the ship (and not because it can't be done, just because they are not smart enough) and seeing the potential of picking up freebees off of other peoples work slip thorough their fingers time and time again.
Fortunately there's alternatives on the horizon in the form of different MMO options. |

BESTER bm
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Posted - 2017.06.21 22:20:21 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:I guess superior sites scaled to be done in BS hull. Guess what, nobody will do exploration in BS hull because they are non mobile after warp changes, and mobility is the number one for any explorer.
Besides a BS hull not offering any extra support/protection in a Superior Sleeper, they indeed are simply to slow and lack the agility needed to run these sites. There is also no exploration bonus for BS. |

BESTER bm
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Posted - 2017.06.21 22:30:41 -
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baltec1 wrote:Actually I imagine we will go back to people not running these things in a solo cruiser.
That is what will likely happen yes. While I can fit and use a Tengu to run these sites with acceptable risk, where the risk mostly consists of me being careless or greedy, Fitting any available exploration ship to have a chance will become a huge risk even in case of getting unlucky on a hack and triggering a defense. Let alone I will no longer have the option to use the site defense to actually protect myself.
Stratios is not even close to being able to run these sites and will need to leave at the first sign of an unlucky turn or mishap. |

BESTER bm
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
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Posted - 2017.06.22 01:11:15 -
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Mhari Dson wrote:When it comes down to it this is what I expect of a good exploration ship: 1-2 utility highs (probes, salvager optional) 3 utility mids (relic/data/cargo scanner) 400-450 applied dps (HAM/HML apply so poorly the sheet dps for this is over 700) 500dps worth of tank spread across 3 resists Can take two 70K damage pulses in a short time and expect to survive 550m/s under AB, 1200m/s under mwd
Off Topic yes, but; Cargo scanners are a crutch.. knowing you just got unlucky on a 60M can as it blows is not worth it.. Separate Data/Relic is so last decade, we use Zeugma now.. :P .. |

BESTER bm
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Posted - 2017.06.22 05:26:46 -
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Dior Ambraelle wrote:BESTER bm wrote:Separate Data/Relic is so last decade, we use Zeugma now.. :P .. Combo scanners only had one utility slot the last time I checked, yellow and red hacks often need more.
You use the board and no,I have never needed a second slot.
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BESTER bm
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Posted - 2017.06.22 05:36:13 -
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So the ships are on SiSi.. Thread can be closed as for some time now this means CCP is done and the changes are locked in.
Smart guys they are, the subsystems are not available so we can't start to see what can be saved from our investments and CCP won't have the 'burden' of being bombarded with negative comments.
And they cut off the nose from the Tengu.. I mean seriously. But hey, as the ship is likely to be useless now, having it defaced is only a minor issue I guess.. Quick, throw a few skins in there too to see if we can make some money off of those before ppl discover they are basically screwed.. |

BESTER bm
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
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Posted - 2017.06.22 06:11:43 -
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So, tried building a suitable fit on SiSi but it's not possible.
Waste of skills and investment in a couple of ships soon to be worthless to me. Probably unsub two accounts and will be interesting to see how CCP is going to compensate for them moving the goalpost beyond where I can adjust.
Probably CCP won't care either way though.. |

BESTER bm
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Posted - 2017.06.22 08:13:25 -
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Feka wrote:Why should it be solo on all difficulty levels?
Sleeper caches are solo sites, they are not designed to be run in teams and it would be pointless/make no difference if you do. Please know what you are commenting on before you do so. |

BESTER bm
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Posted - 2017.06.22 11:47:42 -
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Dior Ambraelle wrote:I guess we have to deal with the fact that nothing is good enough for us.
That's not the issue here.. CCP has been fumbling and releasing half baked updates and patches for a while now. Most of what they do is not finished at release and it appears devs are pulled off and on to the next nerf/'improvement'/redesign instead of fleshing things out.
The fact that legacy code does hinder optimisations and performance improvements as well as coming competition (!) is not a good sign for CCP. Will be an interesting EVE Vegas (and I would not be surprised it to be the last CCP organised one), especially with DU on the laptop.. |

BESTER bm
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
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Posted - 2017.06.22 16:33:02 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:Edit: Visuals are bull**** btw. Where is iconic Tengu beak?
This very much yes!
It's a shame and so bad I have actually decided to with immediate effect stop using the Tengu and ignore any sites that may require it. I am extracting the skills and selling the ships now that hey are still worth something. I also am biomassing two toons alltogether as they have no more use for me since they were specifically trained and used to run Sleeper caches sold to me. If this means I need to further reduce my game accounts I will as I am at the point I will not spend any RL money to plex accounts.
The ship is just nerfed to the point it's not good for anything but pewpew and even then it's lackluster and has virtually no reason for existing anymore. A mentioned, it's now worse than the Stratios.
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BESTER bm
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Posted - 2017.06.22 16:36:30 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote: will they look the same as they do now or will they be visually reworked given that would essentially mean part of the cruiser hulls would be literally missing?
They will be reworkede to make it easier to apply skins which you can buy for plex only initially. It's all about the benjamins.. |

BESTER bm
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Posted - 2017.06.25 22:32:49 -
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I am pretty sure the focus group never got a say in the subsystems and that they were already in place with at best room for tweaks. The FC is a marketing trick by CCP to be able to buffer the fallout and to make it appear 'we' have a say.
Fozzie lives in his own little world and is provided 'input and ffedback' by a specific segment of EVE playerbase and from within CCP. I also feel his job is not to balance but more to make sure EVE meta and gameplay moves in a predefined desired direction more than anything else..
Then the FC consists mainly of gang/group[/fleet based players so it would make sense their 'input and advise' would center around that. It's also quite obvious this was by design as to not contaminate the CCP desired doctine which goes against solo actiuvity as ageneral rule and promotes destruction to drive PLEX injection as bottom line.
Anyone notice how CCP disabled hostfitting for T3C on SiSi a day or to after they updated the T3C there.. People quickly found the BS in the CCP mantra and story by making serious OP fits as long as you are going for DPS . |

BESTER bm
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Posted - 2017.06.25 23:30:47 -
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Dior Ambraelle wrote:Does it really matter if you are a solo or group player, PVE or PVP, as long as you play It should not, but recent developments would indicate that CCP does at least try to promote a specific style of play over others and is modeling and 'balancing' ships to accomodate this. |
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